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Town Board Not Following Open Meeting Law Rules

I am seeking some guidance regarding an ongoing issue I am having with the Town of Theresa.

Last year, I began to notice that the Town was not posting its board meeting minutes in a timely manner and required by the Open Meetings Law (OML). For example, by November of 2023, the minutes from May 2023 onward had not been posted. I have screenshots to support my claims. I brought this to the attention of the Town Board in October 2023 and was met with hostility and contempt for the OML by the Town Clerk. The following month, I requested to address the Town Board and read/submitted a formal complaint regarding the lack of compliance with the OML. I also provided citations of where the law could be found and the posting requirements for the Town of Theresa (Note: The Town has a regularly maintained website and access to high-speed internet).

It wasn’t until approximately December 11th, 2023 that the remaining outstanding minutes (May-Nov) were posted on the website. On December 13th, 2023, I brought my video camera to the Town Board meeting to film the public meeting. As I was setting up my camera, the Town Supervisor, Steve Marcinkowski, asked me if I was allowed to do that. I said that I was (Public Officers Law, Art 7, Sec 103 (d)(1)). He didn’t believe me and demanded that I look up the law and prove to him that I was allowed to record the meeting. I informed the Town Supervisor that the burden was on him to prove that I was violating the law, and that I was not obligated to prove my rights. He threatened to cancel the public meeting and disappeared into his office for about 10 minutes to attempt to call the Town’s attorney. I can elaborate on how things transpired afterward if needed, but the public meeting did move forward.

The Town held another public quorum on December 28th, 2023, but due to my recovering from COVID, I was unable to attend. To date, those minutes have not been posted on the Town website.

The Town held its next board meeting on January 17th, 2024. As I was setting up my camera for this meeting, our county legislator was in attendance and asked why I recorded the meetings. I simply stated that my intentions were to record the meetings and post on Youtube so that people who could not attend would have the opportunity to observe what was discussed. The Town Supervisor overheard this and asked if I was live-streaming and if I was allowed to post the videos on Youtube. He also stated that he discussed this “extensively” with the town’s attorney and said that they will be watching what I am doing with the videos very closely and that if it can be construed as harassment, then the town will pursue civil and criminal charges against me. I told him that I had no intention of breaking the law, at which point, he repeated himself in saying that they will be watching what I do with the video very closely. I perceived this as a legal threat.

During the January 17th meeting, I again asked to address the board. As we now have a new Town Clerk and a new member to the town board, I briefly discussed the issues over the past several months and the requirements of the law. A board member stated that the minutes do not get approved until the following meeting, but I explained to them that they still have to be posted, but in draft status until formal approval. The Town Supervisor, on camera, stated that at this time it is not a priority for the Town to post the minutes within the legal requirements and that the Town is too busy.

I am asking for guidance from the New York Coalition for Open Government regarding this issue. I would like to post the videos I have made of the Town of Theresa Board Meetings on Youtube so that members of the public who are unable to attend may keep themselves informed and that our elected officials are held accountable for the statements and decisions they make. The Town Supervisor has made it clear that the Town of Theresa does not intend to abide by the OML. As of the writing of this email, the Town of Theresa Board meeting minutes have still not been posted for December 28th, 2023, and January 17th, 2024. The next Town Board meeting is on February 14th, 2024.

Ideally, I would like to livestream the Town Board meetings so that I may webcast and upload to Youtube all at once. This would ensure the highest degree of transparency and accessibility to fellow town residents. I can almost guarantee that this will be met with hostility and that Town Supervisor Steve Marcinkowski will make good on his threat of legal action against me. I would welcome any guidance and/or support your organization could offer in this matter.

Can I FOIL Public Employee Union Grievances?

I know you’ve helped us in the past on general public information inquiries when it comes to the media.

I have a question regarding union grievances filed against a municipality.

I’ve heard that Jamestown’s police and fire departments have filed grievances against the city. My question is whether these documents are covered under FOIL rules and, if so, would it be to the city or another agency like PERB (Public Employment Relations Board)?

When Does A Town Board Need to Post Agendas And Minutes?

Can you please clarify a few details:

1) when agendas and supporting materials are supposed to be published ahead of Town and Village Planning Board and Board of Education meetings?
2) After meetings, when presentations displayed and discussed at such meetings are to be released to the public.

We see slippage here and would like to file a notification or “complaint” to ask local officials to clean things up, but we’d like to lean on the law or regulations on these points.

Does A Meeting Consisting of a Quorum of Town Board Officials Require a Public Notice?

You raise an interesting question, which was addressed in an opinion by the Committee on Open Government. As the Committee consists of the Supervisor and two board members, the Committee is subject to the Open Meetings Law as far as notifying the public etc.

The opinion is linked below:

“… members of the Legislature who are not members of the Committee may attend the Committee meeting, but if the intent is for the meeting to be a “Committee” meeting and not a meeting of the “Legislature,” the non-Committee members should not be involved in the discussion of Committee business. Non-Committee legislators should only be permitted to comment in the same way that members of the general public are permitted to comment.”

https://docsopengovernment.dos.ny.gov/coog/otext/O5645.pdf

Are Police Reports Subject To FOIL?

A town councilman is under investigation for videotaping and posting on social media an obviously distressed naked woman on Main Street in Saugerties.

He’s a fireman, was in the official assistant chief’s car, with his friend who is not a fireman, and did nothing to help but left the scene after taping her twice.
Both clips are about ten seconds.  The parents are upset and filed a Police report.

Are these documents subject to FOIL?

Do legal notices need to be printed in newspapers?

The current law in NY is that legal notices must be printed in a newspaper.

Below is a link to a resource which will give you more information. Several years ago a bill was introduced in the state legislature to eliminate the paper requirement and just do online. As legal notices are an important revenue source, newspapers oppose the legislation and it has not passed.

https://www.pnrc.net/2023/07/11/is-new-york-the-wild-west-of-public-notice/

Can I Record A Town Council Meeting?

Section 103(d)(1) of the Public Officers Law, commonly referred to as the Open Meetings Law allows for anyone to record a public meeting. The public’s right to record meetings has been part of the Open Meetings Law since 2011.

(d) 1. Any meeting of a public body that is open to the public shall be open to being photographed, broadcast, webcast, or otherwise recorded and/or transmitted by audio or video means.

The town supervisor is incorrect in his position. You or anyone else has the right to record a public meeting.
Linked below is an opinion from the NY Committee on Open Government, which may be helpful as well.

https://docsopengovernment.dos.ny.gov/coog/otext/o5335.html

Does our town board need to hold a public hearing for a revised Comprehensive Land Use Plan?

The town is required to hold one public hearing during the preparation of the plan and one public hearing prior to the adoption of the plan.

If they held a public hearing and made revisions, they are not required to have another hearing due to changes being made.

Can Our Town Supervisor Chair Meetings Remotely?

In 2022, the Open Meetings Law was amended to allow for members of a public body to participate remotely, as long as a quorum of members are present in person.

In order for members to participate remotely, a town must pass a resolution which establishes rules for allowable “extraordinary circumstances” when participating remotely is allowed. As part of passing a local law or resolution on this topic a public hearing must be held.

https://opengovernment.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2023/08/chapter-56-of-the-laws-of-2022-guidance-document-05-20-22.pdf

I don’t think the intention of this new law is to allow an elected official to go to Florida for the winter or to take another job out of state.

It will be interesting to see how the town writes up what constitutes “extraordinary circumstances”. Your local news media may be interested in this.

Do I need to FOIL For Property Records?

A FOIL request is only required if the town requires it. There is nothing that prevents anyone walking into town hall verbally requesting a document and the town clerk providing it. In some places that is how it is done and should be done. There is nothing in the law that requires utilizing the FOIL process to provide information to the public.

Terms are important. There is a difference between an “RFP” process and a “bidding” process. With bids, typically they are opened in public and the town goes with the low bidder when seeking work and the high bidder when selling something. If the bids have been opened, all information is accessible to the public.

RFP’s are a different process, typically used to hire professional firms and with an RFP the winner is made not just on price alone but other factors as well, such as experience, etc. RFP info can be released after the process of selecting someone has been completed.

As far as the wording of your request, I assume in the case of bids you are looking for the names of who bid and the amount of the bid. For an RFP you probably want to see what grading criteria was established, the evaluation results and the proposals submitted.

Can An In-person Board Meeting Be Moved To Zoom?

What was the reason given for the executive session?

A specific reason has to be provided for an executive session motion to be proper. A proper motion could be to meet in executive session to discuss  “matters which will imperil the public safety if disclosed”. There must be a quorum of members present in person to vote on the executive session motion. As the public does not have the right to attend an executive session, the executive session itself could be done by Zoom.

If an executive session was held, the board always has to return to continue or end the meeting in public.

The executive session occurred during the 5:30 pm work session, did the 7pm board meeting occur?

In order for a meeting to occur with some board members present in person and some appearing by Zoom, the town is supposed to have adopted a local law which puts forth what constitutes “extraordinary circumstances” for a board member to appear virtually instead of in person. If a board member is going to appear by Zoom then the public is supposed to be given the opportunity to observe the meeting by Zoom as well.

Can I Share a Recorded Executive Session?

Your question is an interesting one, with a lot of different parts to consider.

There is no law that states what is discussed in an executive session cannot be disclosed. With limited exceptions such as an individual’s health issues there is no requirement to discuss things in an executive session. An executive session is an option but a town could discuss everything in public.

Many school boards have policies that prohibit disclosing what has been discussed in an executive session and there have been instances where a school board member has been removed for disclosing executive session discussions.
You should check whether your town has a policy or rule regarding executive sessions.

In a 2011 court case, an Erie County Supreme Court Judge ruled that recording an executive session was improper. The Judge stated in her decision:

“An issue did come up over a tape recording that someone did of an executive session of the School Board meeting that involved the Petitioner’s daughter. There is no question the taping of the executive session is improper and violates the confidentiality that is encompassed in the executive session.”

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9019976364571771120&q=stephenson+v+board+of+education&hl=en&as_sdt=4,33

This is an Erie County lower court decision that is not binding on other courts. I am not aware of any other court decisions on this issue.
Below is an opinion from the NY State Committee on Open Government regarding the recording of executive sessions.

https://docs.dos.ny.gov/coog/otext/o5384.html

While it is inappropriate for the town supervisor to insult you with obscene language, posting a recording from an executive session on your Facebook page may result in you being attacked for recording and posting executive session conversations.

You could also bring the Supervisor’s behavior to light by posting about it on your Facebook page without posting the recording.

Can I Get My FOIL Request Certified?

Can I FOIL Expense Reports of my NYS Assemblyman?

I live in NY and I am curious to know if I could use FOIA to request expense reports from trips taken by my NYS Assemblyman.

East Aurora School District Not Posting Documents After Platform Switch

The East Aurora Union Free School District has switched to a new Board Doc platform.

Agenda related documents, including minutes, are no longer posted to the website. The Board Clerk’s explanation, that she does not post these items because she does not “anticipate” the Board will discuss these documents, seems to be a  strange interpretation of the law.

Here is the statement I received:
“Section 103(e) pertains to documents “which are scheduled to be the subject of discussion by a public body during an open meeting.”  Since we do not anticipate that these documents will be the subject of discussion during tonight’s meeting, Section 103(e) does not require that we post them in advance. “

Your thoughts?

Ordinance Requiring Legal Name and Proof Of Residence For Public Comment

I am a reporter working on a story today about the Saratoga Springs Public Safety Commissioner proposing an ordinance related to public comment.

If approved, the ordinance would require people to provide their legal name and proof of residence, employment or that they own property in the city in order to speak. The ordinance would further limit a 30 minute comment period (4 minutes for each speaker) to residents first, then employees and then property owners.

I would love your comment on this for my article. Have you ever seen other communities do this?

 Link to the ordinance

Are Fire Departments Subject To FOIL?

Do you believe volunteer fire departments have to follow the Freedom of Information law?

I came across a baffling decision by a local volunteer department & need to learn more about the impetus for moving forward with building a new fire hall.

Can The Subject Of An Ethics Complaint Request A Hearing In Public?

What is the ruling on whether an individual who is the subject of an ethics complaint can request the meeting of the ethics committee be held in public?

In Watertown we have a city councilman who has had a complaint filed against him by the mayor.

There is a meeting scheduled. The agenda has an executive session on it. The councilman has requested the meeting be held in public.

Is it correct to reject a FOIL request for a county attorney’s resignation letter or should I appeal?

Can Advisory Committee Members Be Prohibited To Speak In Public?

Question from a reporter:

The Port Chester Board of Trustees appointed an Advisory Form-Based Code Study Committee at their last meeting.

When I went to write about it, I was taken aback by the following section, which states:

 “Each member shall not appear at a public meeting or provide public comments, as a member of the committee or as a citizen, to at any time criticize, question, comment or provide insight about the Board as to its actions on any matter related to the charge of the Committee, unless directed by the Board.”

Another distressing but not as egregious section of the resolution reads:

 “Members of the committee “shall each acknowledge that they will serve to the best of their ability, fairly, honestly and impartially, without regard to personal employment or financial gain, without regard to their own social or political position or beliefs and without regard to their own personal and familial benefit, and each shall acknowledge that such service is at the pleasure of the Board and in a strictly advisory capacity.”

I would appreciate your opinion on this.

 

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